OR: Who is Asking the Hard Questions?
Published on July 5, 2004 By CrispE In Current Events
I reviewed Fahrenheit 9/11 last Friday and you may wish to read that blog before this one.

The people of the United States are good, decent human beings who over 225 years ago embarked on a great experiment in government and society untried in human history. It was an experiment based on the premise that every part of government would provide a "check and balance" to every other part so that only laws and regulations that all 3 parts would agree upon could become law and part of society. The 4th estate, the free press, was the ultimate check on the government, because it was seen by the founding fathers (Thomas Jefferson wrote "Better a free press than a free government") that it would have an antagonistic role in making sure that if the other checks weren't enough, the media would be. Fahrenheit 9/11 would be very much liked by Jefferson for the questions it asks about whether we are in a situation in Iraq that justifies the losses we have and will take and the policies of the government that allow them.

Your first question as Americans should be: is the media today the antagonist watchdog it should be? Were the hard questions asked before we went to war with Iraq about our motivations and interests that would have exposed the lack of WMD's, the "dotted line relationship between Saddam and Al Qaeda" and the lack of a plan by the military to get the job done and prevent the "Viet Nam like experience" the troops now face? Or did the media rubber stamp the Bush administration's policies because it was easier, more expedient, and would give them better ratings?

It is interesting that if we have a liberal administration in office, Fox news and Drudge Report have taken pride in breaking both President Clinton's illicit affairs with women and foreign policy (Somalia's "nation-building" experiment, for example) but no one is calling what we are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan nation-building although it appears to be even more grandiose than Mr. Clinton could ever have imagined (between liasons, of course). If media does not do it's job on the left (isn't media supposed to lean left to be antagonistic to a right wing conservative administration?) then who will ask the questions we need to be asked?

Your second question as Americans should be: Does Fahrenheit 9/11 ask the questions about this war that someone else (with better press credentials) should have? Interview and interview by American media (Fox, CNN, the major networks) of White House officials including the President have focused on American policy, right? But if you look at the interviews they do not seriously challenge (IMO) the administration on the issues. It takes a rather green journalist from Ireland who doesn't have an editor screaming what questions not to ask to put the President on the spot. Then, do we as Americans say, "hey, if she can get the President upset, let's send in one of the big boys like Bill O'Reilly or Wolf Blitzer." What we say is, "She was so undignified and irreverent to our President. How could she be so mean?"

Those of us who remember Watergate (and those who don't: read the book!) remember that truth comes out of the White House very slowly and not without a great big pair of pliers and a lot of elbow grease. The White House is a hotbed of ideas and plans (contingency, mostly) for every possible event. Michael Moore suggests one of those plans was the "War against Iraq" that many others besides Moore suggest got dusted off and implimented pretty much the moment 9/11 occured. If you don't want Michael Moore asking why and how, someone else should have been doing it! If Michael Moore is the filmmaker (another "dotted-line" relationship to the news media) who asks it, you best be listening as a citizen to how the administration responds.

And how has the Republican party and President responded? Well, they brand him a propogandist and a whacko. If you remember, Woodward and Bernstein were called similar names. If that in itself doesn't recommend the movie, nothing the 90% of the reviewers who call it "well-done" means anything. Moore asks the questions that should have been asked and while you might not agree with the answers he gives as a filmmaker (that is your right) you should at least consider why a guy who has a history of making culture films has evoked such high emotion by such seemingly self-assured and confident people.

Finally, I will borrow from Moore with my last question: All our American troops (all volunteers) ask is that we not place them in harm's way without good reason. Did we? Moore isn't interested in President Bush in the movie. He's a nice prop, but not the theme. The theme is the awful toll of putting lives at risk and the cost of the dead. The theme is the policy of recruiting almost every one the armed forces can in Flint, Michigan and other poor cities while only one Congressperson has a son serving in Iraq. The theme is whether the government, the media, and we, the people have become lazy and unexcited by war and the costs.

Have we........?

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on Jul 05, 2004
Finally, I will borrow from Moore with my last question: All our American troops (all volunteers) ask is that we not place them in harm's way without good reason. Did we?

The most excruciatingly clear part of the movie is when they show Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice stating Iraq is definitely not a threat and that they have denied them from having WMD's and then jumping to a year later (when nothing in Iraq has changed) they start stating that Iraq has WMD's all of a sudden and they are a threat to the American public.  They pulled a fast one on the American public and played on the nations ever shrinking attention span.  On a March 11th 2003 an article on CNN.com showed a poll taken of the American public's opinion at that time and I quote, "Another poll released in February asked, "Was Saddam Hussein personally involved in the September 11 attacks?" Although it is a claim the Bush administration has never made and for which there is no evidence, 72 percent said it was either very or somewhat likely. "  Of course fast foward yet another year and now we know there is no link between them and there is no evidence that Saddam and Al Qaeda ever collaborated.  So I ask if our government did not want to mislead us about Iraq why did 72% of Americans actually believe Saddam had something to do with it at the time?  I could be writing all day about all the inconsistencies that exist and it's certainly disconcerting that these inconsistencies are being dismissed by Americans as unpatriotic and conspiratory when it's history, in other words exactly what happened...

p.s. here is the link to the cnn article Link

on Jul 05, 2004
isn't media supposed to lean left to be antagonistic to a right wing conservative administration?


No. Media isn't supposed to "lean" any direction.
on Jul 05, 2004
So I ask if our government did not want to mislead us about Iraq why did 72% of Americans actually believe Saddam had something to do with it at the time?


People can be misinformed about lots of things without any help from the government.




The theme is the policy of recruiting almost every one the armed forces can in Flint, Michigan and other poor cities while only one Congressperson has a son serving in Iraq.


The one congress member statistic is very misleading. There are about 150,000 soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's alot of soldiers, but it is a very small percentage of a total population in excess of 250 million. There are about 105 million households/families in the US. In other words, 0.0014% of US households have someone serving in Iraq. By contrast, with one person serving out of the 535 families in congress, 0.0018% of the members of congress have a son/daughter serving in Iraq. So, to imply that congress is disproportionately immune to the human costs of war isn't backed up by facts.
on Jul 05, 2004
As for the recruiting, I was recruited very heavily when I graduated from high school, which was prior to 9/11, and I live in a relatively upscale city, and I'm not poor.

on Jul 05, 2004
Madine:
First you say that the information is anecdotal than you off anecdotal evidence as proof? Hehehe. Isn't that incongrous? Or is it in-congress? The point that Mr. Moore is making is not so much that Congresspeople are trying to avoid military service for their children but rather, as Congresspeople; how much stake do they have in saying "yeah, stay in Iraq for the next 18 months, it's no problem for us.
on Jul 05, 2004
Smartaz:
You say they are not supposed to lean... Doesn't everyone lean? I mean, isn't it human for all of us to feel that a certain path is the correct one? So, if that is true, "fair and balanced" is ridiculous. Many people call Foxnews and Drudge Report conservative and CNN and the networks liberal. That's ok. The point is that if they don't do their job investigating, just reporting, the American public decides it has been done then agrees with the government position as quoted by Psychx.
OR do you have a different reason why 72% agreed?
on Jul 05, 2004
People can be misinformed about lots of things without any help from the government.
Our gov't mislead us when they stated Iraq was an imminent threat with stockpiles of their so called "WMD's".  It's amazing how people still can't see this today when we know what we know.  The ousting of Saddam was a positive effect from this war I will admit that but what about the actual culprits such as Bin Laden?  We have 150,000 troops in Iraq and 11,000 in Afghanistan.  Media companies with agendas, as CrispE pointed out, is completely detrimental towards the public asserting the truth but of course to think that giant corporate companies will not have agendas is a little naive.  Focusing merely on facts things that have been said by this administration and actual numbers is important because it is a precursor to finding out what is going on.
on Jul 05, 2004
By saying "supposed" I am clearly not talking about the current sorry state affairs, but the ideal to which we need to be held. The truth should be the truth regardless of who is in office. Whether Saddam was a threat or had WMD has nothing to do with liberal v. conservative, nor does a counterpulling lean in any direction affect those facts.

To report solely facts, does not preclude investigating to find those facts.

Doesn't everyone lean?


That's exactly the excuse being put forth to support the growing tide of lazy journalism. "So what? Everybody does it!" Well, the news media is not "everybody." We are called to a higher standard because we have a high responsibility. That a growing number are chosing to forget those standards because of laziness, indifference, or imagined fiscal reasons does not mean the standards no longer exist. To say the news media should lean is to further erode an already diminishing institution.

Just for the record, balanced is not fair. (That's an article I've had on my agenda for months now. I need to get to it soon.) "Balance" is misleading. "Balanced" is something most news media rarely are anyway.
on Jul 05, 2004
Smartaz:
Thanks for clarifying. However, as a counterpoint, I believe it was George Bernard Shaw who said "If you are young and not liberal, you have no heart. If you are old and not conservative, you have no brain." I believe he was trying to say we cannot be something we are not (biased) by both nature and upbringing, but we can use the bias to counter those things that we should question, both in ourselves and others. Journalists are only human, too.....
on Jul 05, 2004
Great post.
on Jul 06, 2004
First you say that the information is anecdotal than you off anecdotal evidence as proof?


What did I call anecdotal?

I did not say that the congressional statistic was misleading because it was anecdotal. I said it was misleading because the percentage of members of Congress with a child in Iraq is simliar to the percentage of America with a child in Iraq.

Focusing merely on facts things that have been said by this administration and actual numbers is important because it is a precursor to finding out what is going on.


I don't remember anyone from the administration calling Iraq an imminent threat.

Were you in favor of weapons inspections?
on Jul 06, 2004
Madine:
The anecdotal evidence is yourself being recruited, while not being poor and living in a wealthy place. That certainly is not contrary to what the film says.

Was I against inspections? No, I was in favor of inspections AND military action based on Colin Powell's presentation at the U.N. Believe it or not, he was the one person who I believed would never present evidence he did not believe in 100%. Of course, now that I have seen him do his version of Y-M-C-A I know I probably trusted him too much.
on Jul 06, 2004
Your first question as Americans should be: is the media today the antagonist watchdog it should be? Were the hard questions asked before we went to war with Iraq about our motivations and interests that would have exposed the lack of WMD's, the "dotted line relationship between Saddam and Al Qaeda" and the lack of a plan by the military to get the job done and prevent the "Viet Nam like experience" the troops now face? Or did the media rubber stamp the Bush administration's policies because it was easier, more expedient, and would give them better ratings?


Actually, I prefer a media that REPORTS the NEWS, and allows me to make an informed decision. This "antagonistic watchdog" stuff is for the op/ed page, not the FRONT page. Yellow journalism is an insult to my intelligence, and I detest it and refuse to patronize it (can't say I'm too crazy about people who try to "guilt trip" me into buying into yellow journalism, either).
on Jul 06, 2004
As for the recruiting, I was recruited very heavily when I graduated from high school, which was prior to 9/11, and I live in a relatively upscale city, and I'm not poor.


I was heavily recruited as well...although I was poor, being a National Merit Scholarship finalist obviously meant I had options beyond the military. So they're not just trying to take the desperate...
on Jul 06, 2004
Gideon:
I wasn't trying to say that journalism should, by nature, be looking for answers hidden under teacups. What I was saying was that when the media assumes that the government is acting in the best interest of the public, journalism becomes nothing more than another outlet for the government. Reporting the news is different than investigating the news. Yet, how would we ever know of any abuses simply by reporting?
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